{"id":17313,"date":"2025-11-19T08:06:55","date_gmt":"2025-11-19T04:36:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bahaismiran.com\/?p=17313"},"modified":"2025-11-19T08:07:34","modified_gmt":"2025-11-19T04:37:34","slug":"proving-bahais-to-be-infidels-debating-with-a-bahai-proselytizer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bahaismiran.com\/?p=17313&lang=en","title":{"rendered":"Proving Baha\u2019is to be infidels debating with a Baha\u2019i proselytizer"},"content":{"rendered":"

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The expert who criticizing Bahaism<\/a> <\/span>answers the question of one of the Bahaism proselytizers about the reasons for the Baha’is to be infidels.<\/strong><\/h3>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 According to the report by Mafaz news site, the clergyman Abdul Qader Homayoun, the expect of criticizing Bahaism narrated a memoir of his debate with the Baha’is interviewing with Rasa and said: Usually, the last proselytizing weapon of the Baha’s in speaking and debating with the critics is pretending to be oppressed.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 He continued: In 1386 A.D., it was reported that a female psychologist commutes a village nearby Persepolis and induces Bahaism teachings for women of the village under the title of educating and psychological classes. After following up and listening audio files of sessions, he is ions, it became clear that she is Mrs. Fariba. Kh. Mr. Babak. S.’s wife whom we debated about a scientific issue completely one day in Shiraz university. Meanwhile, Babak is M.S. in civil engineering and is active in knowledge enhancement group of the Baha’is of shiraz<\/a> city.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The people in charge of village council desired to hold a meeting with this lady at that class in the village for disambiguation. Because she had wanted to debate about Bahaism teachings, the meeting was as usual started in its hour and each Bahaism doubts were answered. After finishing her questions, I asked her to explain about one of Abdul Baha’s statements about the difference between African and American Negros in order for all to be familiar with Baha’i teachings.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 At that time, she answered and all were astonished. She answered: The answer is clear. Why do you consider us as infidels while we are from the same color, race and city? What should I have said to answer to her?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I remembered the time when I said to myself in private. O’ my God, these Baha’i proselytizers don’t understand or have made themselves not understand.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I remembered this statement that you cannot make a person awake when he\/she has pretended to be asleep. However, I must have answered.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I must say my religious reasons or must answer them using their heads’ statements. Nevertheless; this time, I don’t know why I asked her:<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Dear lady, do you want an answer of solution or violation?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Silence overmastered the meeting deeply.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Maybe, Fariba was thinking of the answer of solution? or violation one? Why these things had not been said to us? What are the meaning and differences of these two?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Maybe, I sympathized her.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don’t know, but I broke the silence and continued: Do you like to answer to you using our own religious resources or the main ones and your leaders’ writings?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you believe in Al Muhammad Shiraz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What about Mirza Asadullah Mazandarani, one of three superior Baha\u2019i author?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Have you studied the book Asrarul Athar?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 She also broke the silence and said: He is the promised one of Islam and the evangelist of the Excellency Bahaullah, the prophet of Baha ism faith. It is impossible for us as Baha’is not to believe in Bahaullah. The book Asrarul Athar has also been written by Asadullah Mazandarani, the great proselytizer of Bahaism and is the reference for all Baha\u2019is. <\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 These confessions were enough for me to bring the first volume of this book out of my bag to put page 182 of it before her.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Excellency Fadhel Mazandarani writes in this document narrated by Ali Muhammad Shirazi:<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What was the question?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Why do you call the Baha\u2019is as infidels and unclean?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Ali Muhammad Shiraz, the number one leader and the evangelist of your prophet says: The promised one of Shia is Muhammad Ibn Al Hassan and he has four deputies. There will be no gate after Imam of the Time’s four deputies. Everybody who denies one of these four deputies, he\/she has become infidel and will be of the losers. <\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now, the question is: Do you believe the Excellency himself?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Consequently, you are infidel because Ali Muhammad Bab has considered you as infidel.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Source: Mafaz Site<\/strong><\/p>\n

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